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Post by Jestor (LAL) Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:08 pm

Fantastic work on this. Seriously, this is the best laid out sim league CBA I've ever seen.
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Post by Myles (SAS) Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:18 pm

Yeah great work SS. This blew my mind when you sent it to us and I hope everyone takes full advantage of it.
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Post by Dennis (BOS) Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:19 pm

great great work man!
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Post by Sun Scorched (NOP) Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:49 pm

All - to keep the other thread clean for a forthcoming reason, please discuss anything CBA related here. Thanks.
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Post by WillyJakkz (ORL) Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:04 pm

For reference to the bulk of the original conversation, please reference the following thread: Jordan Hill Sings Massive One Year Deal

Yeah I'd be "singing" too if I signed that contract.

Back on topic great work on the CBA SS.
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Post by Sun Scorched (NOP) Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:06 pm

Hahaha - so the hell would I.

Hill is getting paid double what he may have made over the remainder of his career in one year.
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Post by Rizzo (NY) Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:09 pm

Great job on that SS. Looks great and makes it easy to read and understand.
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Post by Jamal (CHA) Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:20 pm

Wow, that's great work man, appreciate!
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Post by bt (SAC) Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:43 pm

Yeah, very nice. Great point of reference.
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Post by Riot (MKE) Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:46 pm

Fabulous work, SS. Just incredible.
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Post by blackice (TOR) Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:22 pm

*slow clap

This is art, great work SS.
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Post by Dennis (BOS) Tue May 06, 2014 8:23 am

Seems cba doesnt work anymore. At least for me somehow.
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Post by Marcos_Beck (CHI) Tue May 06, 2014 8:43 am

Not working for me either.
Also would love to see those luxury taxes penalties as now I have a 1st pick, better be worried about it!
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Post by Sun Scorched (NOP) Tue May 06, 2014 11:20 am

Sorry Gentlemen - no clue why that happened - CBA re-linked.
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Post by Marcos_Beck (CHI) Tue May 06, 2014 1:47 pm

Still not working for me.. Maybe because I'm using mobile phone, but when I click the download button an error message appears..
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Post by Marcos_Beck (CHI) Sat May 24, 2014 7:08 pm

I must say I did not like that new rule at all.
But, hey, if I got it right, at least Reggie Bullock is now an RFA when his contract ends. Easier to re-sign him.
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Post by Sun Scorched (NOP) Sat May 24, 2014 7:09 pm

Marcos_Beck (OKC) wrote:I must say I did not like that new rule at all.
But, hey, if I got it right, at least Reggie Bullock is now an RFA when his contract ends. Easier to re-sign him.

What is it about the rule that you don't like?
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Post by Marcos_Beck (CHI) Sat May 24, 2014 7:15 pm

Sun Scorched (CHA) wrote:
Marcos_Beck (OKC) wrote:I must say I did not like that new rule at all.
But, hey, if I got it right, at least Reggie Bullock is now an RFA when his contract ends. Easier to re-sign him.

What is it about the rule that you don't like?

I think it makes no sense. I mean, players like Bullock will be eligible to a max extension at the last year of their contracts, but they'll only have 2 Bird Right years (because a player only earns a Bird Year at the end of the year). The rule says players must have 3 or + years to be extended in-season. It's kind of contradictory.
But I'm in for whatever rules you guys decide. I can easily adapt into every new rule, just wanna be sure there are rules to be followed when that kind of situation happens.
It's another step towards "organizing" the simulator's financial system, and I'm very happy that you guys have done a masterful job till now Smile
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sun May 25, 2014 1:32 am

I hate the RFA rule for 2nd rounders. Bird rights, fine. RFA status, though? That's just a way to even further restrict player movement in free agency and further cheapens cap space.
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Post by Higrade (LAC) Sun May 25, 2014 1:36 am

Yeah 2nd Round picks should not be treated as 1st rounders...that's just ridiculous
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sun May 25, 2014 1:39 am

It's also going to increase the value of 2nd round picks, because that means you've got player control for ALL of your drafted players. 2nd round salaries are so small that the only reason not to give them a 3 year contract is if you need the roster spots.
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Post by Higrade (LAC) Sun May 25, 2014 1:47 am

If we're going to allow 2nd rounders to be extended, then it should only be a % of their last contract year. If the player is garbage, of course he'll sign a small deal. If he's at the talent similar to Parsons, no way he's going to sign and will look for a lucrative offer in free agency. I just don't see the logic in 2nd round picks getting 1st rounder treatment.

Then again, I also think the only players that should be extension eligible are 1st rounders coming off rookie contracts. After that new deal expires, they shouldn't be able to be extended again like Aldridge, etc.

That would open the door for a much more attractive free agency, where teams would be fighting tooth and nail to get cap space to sign big name players entering their prime.
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sun May 25, 2014 1:52 am

The big problem is that a rule like this is going to horrifically imbalance team building to the draft and trades, and make free agency essentially an afterthought. There will be zero avenue to build a team through free agency, and as a result almost no incentive to create cap space, because fuck it, all the top players are going to extend in-season anyway, and any decent young players are going to be RFAs.
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sun May 25, 2014 1:53 am

Also if this is going to stay in place, FA should be shortened to a week as befitting its drastically reduced importance.
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Post by Dennis (BOS) Sun May 25, 2014 2:01 am

Am I allowed to cancel my cap Clearing verbals? lol
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