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Post by Jake0890 (WAS) Sat May 31, 2014 7:09 pm

Changes on the Horizon for the Wolves? 9qzIced
After throwing $25 million dollars around in free agency to court players to play in Minnesota, things just haven't panned out as Jake, and many others, expected. The Wolves now stand at 24-18, a decent winning percentage of .571. That percentage puts them in the likes of teams like the Indiana  Pacers (.525), the Washington Wizards (.600), the Miami Heat (.634), and the Denver Nuggets (.500), which is definitely decent company and nothing to scoff at. The problem is, when you're playing in the most competitive Western Conference many have ever seen, not to mention playing against the toughest division opponents anyone could ask for, .571 isn't going to cut it. .571 puts them in a rut in 9th place in the West, behind the Lakers and Rockets who have struggled with injuries, and with a decent margin above teams like Denver and San Antonio, who just aren't playing all that well.

Changes on the Horizon for the Wolves? 4b335bba7661873b_make_it_rain.xxxlarge
So where does that leave them? Chandler Parsons reportedly wants the maximum allowable contract, who knows what's going on with Jeremy Lin, and Kevin Love might have TOO much talent around him now, in stark contrast to the rest of his career with the Wolves where he'd been playing with guys coming straight off of their couches. Bogut is a defensive monster but doesn't get the touches necessary to do anything offensively, and Jamaal Franklin is simply holding Ben McLemore back, who continues to show flashes of greatness every so often. In a word, this team is inconsistent. 


It now seems some changes are in order, but it's unclear as to exactly how GM Jake plans to tackle the situation. Trading cornerstone Kevin Love to get a different star to avoid a potential free agent nightmare this season? Unlikely, but possible. Trade the top 6th man in the league Danny Granger when his value is at it's peak to get someone that shoots less? Or maybe Jake says screw it and decides to break up the Lin-Parsons combo and ship one (or perhaps both!) of them off to avoid free agency and extension negotiations. Hell, Bogut could be sent off for an offensive center so he and Love could work the double post to death. The only thing that seems certain at this point is Ben McLemore remaining in a Wolves jersey for years to come as a personal favorite player of the front office. 

Changes on the Horizon for the Wolves? Ny_a_copeland_576
Jake has already started the changes with the roster in signing the top 2 D-League players this year, Chris Copeland and Jonny Flynn. Copeland put up 22 points, 7 rebounds, and 1 assist per game with 41% shooting from 3 and 52% from the field, and it seems Jake brought him on to be a sharpshooter from 3 point range, something this team doesn't having. Jonny Flynn, on the other hand, seems to be an insurance point guard with the plethora of injuries destroying the team currently. He put up 15 points per game, 8 assists per game, and 5 rebounds per game with a 44% field goal percentage and 42% from 3 point range. They both haven't played a game in a NBA uniform yet, but we'll get the chance to see how they play tonight against the Los Angeles Lakers in a battle for the last spot in the west.

So what exactly is going to happen? No one really knows, but you can count on something happening.
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Post by WillyJakkz (ORL) Sat May 31, 2014 10:53 pm

Hopefully it's not anything too drastic, you've got the right guys in place ofr the most part, hated the Granger signing and his PT as well, Nick Young, too as they seemed like money throwing moves to attempt to gain tradable assets after TR is lifted.

Lin McLemore Parsons Love Bogut is a great starting 5 that I'd try to hold onto, it seems it's more the strategy.

I think too many guys want instant gratification and it doesn't always work that way but then again you're on a clock considering Love, Lin, and Parsons impending FA.
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Post by Jake0890 (WAS) Sat May 31, 2014 10:59 pm

WillyJakkz (HOU) wrote:Hopefully it's not anything too drastic, you've got the right guys in place ofr the most part, hated the Granger signing and his PT as well, Nick Young, too as they seemed like money throwing moves to attempt to gain tradable assets after TR is lifted.

Lin McLemore Parsons Love Bogut is a great starting 5 that I'd try to hold onto, it seems it's more the strategy.

I think too many guys want instant gratification and it doesn't always work that way but then again you're on a clock considering Love, Lin, and Parsons impending FA.

Yeah, if I could do things over again, I would definitely make some changes. That Nick Young signing really was a boneheaded move, guess I just picked out the best guy left late in FA and said "why not, let's just offer him a contract". Wasn't really thinking trade, just wanted to sign, sign, sign and just acquire as much talent as possible and hope it worked out later. Obviously, it didn't.

And I'm definitely on the clock. It's so much harder to commit to guys like Lin and Parsons long term when you're underachieving. If we right the ship, I don't think I'll have any problems meeting their demands. Here's to hoping we can find something that works.
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Post by WillyJakkz (ORL) Sat May 31, 2014 11:09 pm

I really hope you do man, I'm rooting for ya!
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sat May 31, 2014 11:16 pm

What strategies are you running? I'd experiment with a high FCP/low-mid zone setup, given you have Lin, Parsons, and Bogut.
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Post by Jake0890 (WAS) Sat May 31, 2014 11:19 pm

Jestor (PHX) wrote:What strategies are you running?  I'd experiment with a high FCP/low-mid zone setup, given you have Lin, Parsons, and Bogut.

I had FCP at 6 for awhile, recently a lot of my guys were getting in foul trouble so I dialed it back a bit to 5. Very low zone, 2 I think. Moderate offensive pace, 5 I think. Really high crash boards, 9 and 8.
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sat May 31, 2014 11:25 pm

Yeah, only having 5 FCP is wasting your high steal guys TBH. Perhaps something like 8 or 9 FCP, 5 zone is worth a try.
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Post by Jake0890 (WAS) Sat May 31, 2014 11:27 pm

Jestor (PHX) wrote:Yeah, only having 5 FCP is wasting your high steal guys TBH.  Perhaps something like 8 or 9 FCP, 5 zone is worth a try.

Yeah, definitely could try a high full court press. But a high zone wastes Bogut's blocking ability, even if it does help out with our guys' energy because of such a high FCP, I guess you've just gotta find that happy medium.
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sat May 31, 2014 11:42 pm

5 isn't high, though. It's average.
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Post by Cyrisnyte (SAS) Sat May 31, 2014 11:50 pm

I hated to see Rubio leave the Wolves but I understood why you made that move.

You might try what Jestor is saying and take advantage of your defensive players.

Best of luck man!
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Post by WillyJakkz (ORL) Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:20 am

This is the results though of making that trade, it was a gamble going into the season after making that move and Rubio has found glory in NY, time for Minny to turn it around and do the same.
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Post by Marcos_Beck (CHI) Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:35 am

If I were you, I'd trade Granger and have Lin coming off the bench. Try to pick up a pass-first PG with Granger and name him your starter.
Ah, you can trade Franklin for a better big man off the bench too. Could even add Willy C. to the trade, if it's a good C that's coming your way.

Find a defensive SF and you have a nice 8-man rotation.

Of course, easier said then done, but..

Pass First PG
McLemore
Parsons
Love
Bogut
Lin
Defensive SF
Defensive C

I think this team with the right sub-matrix, for example, Lin playing PG and SG, never playing Lin and McLemore together for big spawns (you can give McLemore 34 minutes and Lin 26 which means you're playing them together only 12 minutes).. I think your team would really flourish.

Of course easier said then done.
You have a very talented team and it has not worked so far. I think the problem is Lin, he's a really good PG for some systems, but he's just not what your team needs.
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:26 am

Marcos_Beck (OKC) wrote:Try to pick up a pass-first PG with Granger and name him your starter.

 lol! Good luck with that. Pass-first point guards are rare in this league to begin with, and a 31 year old, somewhat inefficient, high-volume scorer on a long contract isn't going to get one.
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Post by Marcos_Beck (CHI) Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:30 am

Jestor (PHX) wrote:
Marcos_Beck (OKC) wrote:Try to pick up a pass-first PG with Granger and name him your starter.

 lol! Good luck with that.  Pass-first point guards are rare in this league to begin with, and a 31 year old, somewhat inefficient, high-volume scorer on a long contract isn't going to get one.

Looking at how much I had to give to bring Deron (who's not even a pass-first guard, but is a wonderful floor general) you can bet I know how hard is to find one hehe

Still he can try. I think it would be awesome if he can find a good floor general, even if it's a low-tier one.
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Post by Jestor (LAL) Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:34 am

Yeah, Granger's a decent player, but considering what you paid for Deron and what I paid for Marshall, it's just not realistic to expect a pass-first PG unless it's one with poor defense or poor shooting.
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Post by WillyJakkz (ORL) Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:18 am

I'm frankly not seeing how Lin is the problem, his SCR is 62 and his PAS is 74, high IQ, I still think it's mainly strategy related and then the DEF ratings as Lin and Bogut are the only guys at 70 or higher (84) in the starting lineup but still don't see that as doom and gloom.

If he can get a better passing C like Marc Gasol then he has the makings of the Sacramento Kings of the early 00's and that'd be a very dangerous thing for the League.

That's my analysis but understand I do not own the game just using my bball acumen.
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Post by dapralbe (ATL) Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:49 am

In my opinion the problem is kevin love no defense poor fgj. And danny granger you need other pf more defensive and rebounder and with court inteligenge lin mclemore parson play 10 pace full cour high 9 defense intensity 7 for example. Kevin love and granger for a pf defensive a nonscoring more and better bench and create style.
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Post by andrei (MEM) Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:16 am

Yeah, agree with dapralbe - somebody like John Henson would be a great add. Low usage, great defense and solid rebounding is what you need imo
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Post by Jamal (CHA) Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:25 am

Marcos_Beck (OKC) wrote:Try to pick up a pass-first PG with Granger and name him your starter.

Remember he had the best pass-first PG in Rubio and didn't work for him, so that's why he moved in another direction.
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Post by blackice (TOR) Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:44 am

Maybe start Granger and move Parsons, filler for a PG? Save money on his extension and grab a higher tier guard.
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